Top 10 Pound for Pound Ring Talk With Troy

Published on Jun 7, 2017

Pound for pound as June 6 2017

With all the talk about pound for pound lists i thought I would post mine.

Pound for pound lists are subjective opinion.  This is my subjective opinion.

Rankings based on level of opposition and performance over the past two years.  June 6 2015 to June 6 2017. 

This is not a career achievement award.

This is not a prediction of who beats who in a future bout.

A boxer can be coming off a loss.

Again This is my subjective opinion

1. Terence Crawford: Dierry Jean TKO10, Henry Lundy TKO5, Viktor Postol UD12, John Molina Jr TKO8,  Felix Diaz RTD 10.  You can’t expect a champion to fight the best of the best or in other words.  Have a career defining fight every time.  However you can expect them to fight (using Max Kellerman’s words to describe both Lundy and Daiz) someone who is at lest capable every time. (I would describe Diaz as being more than capable though).  I would also put Jean, and Molina Jr. in the capable category.  Postal is a career defining fight in which Crawford dominated on his way to a 12 round decision.  There are no who are they’s or used to be’s here.  Which is more than I can say for anyone else here, and his fights are not close.  Based on how I fell pound for pound should be ranked.  Terance Crawford is the best boxer in the world right now.  While the gap between Crawford is getting narrower.  It’s still not close.  Any Career defining fights?  Yes Dominated Viktor Postol UD12

2. Keith Thurman:  Luis Collazo RTD7, Shawn Porter UD12,  Danny Garcia SD12.  Thurman vs. Collazo at Collazo’s best would have been an interesting fight.  I’d pick Thurman to win.  However was 5 or so years past his best.  Porter pushed Thurman, but Thurman pushed back harder.  I thought he clearly beat Garcia.  Any Career defining fights?  Yes Clear win over Danny Garcia.

3.  Manny Pacquiao:  Timothy Bradley Jr UD12, Jessie Vargas UD12.  I don’t like Manny Pacquiao.  His refusal to do PED Testing, and trying to cast himself as a victim for almost 5 years delayed the Mayweather/Pacquiao (Mayweather is smart, but he’s not the marketing genius he makes himself out to be)  fight for almost 5 years.  Than he stunk the joint out when they did fight.  The icing on the cake he made a b.s. excuse after the fight.  I can go on.  However as much as I don’t like him, he is still a very good boxer and he has wins over Bradley and Vargas.  I wouldn’t call Bradley or Vargas Career defining fights, but they both are more than capable

4. Vasyl Lomachenko: Romulo Koasicha KO10, Roman Martinez KO5, Nicholas Walters RTD7,  Jason Sosa RTD 9.  Based on his last 3 fights compared to anyone else including Crawford Lomachenko would  my top ratted boxer.  However this is a past 2 years ranking not past 3 fights ranking and Koasicha holds him back.  Any Career defining fights? Yes Dominated Nicholas Walters RTD7.

5. Saul Alvarez: Miguel Cotto UD12, Amir Khan KO6, Liam Smith KO9, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr UD12.  Canelo has 4 good wins here, but there is some smoke & minors here too.  Khan who looked good in the early part of the fight was brought up in weight.  Smith may have been the weakest champion at super welterweight.  Chavez Jr.  May have been brought down too far in weight.  I wouldn’t call Cotto a used to be, but he has seen better days. Any Career defining fights? Maybe against Cotto.  Clear win.

6. Gennady Golovkin:  David Lemieux TKO8, Dominic Wade KO2, Kell Brook TKO5, Daniel Jacobs UD12.  Lemieux despite a hiccup back in 2011 and his loss to GGG has been one of the sports better middleweights.  Wade isn’t bad, but he’s nothing special either.  Brook is a talented boxer, but he was doomed going up two weight classes.  Jacobs showed why he’s a champion, but Golovkin won that fight.  Any Career defining fights? Yes close win over Daniel Jacobs

7. Andre Ward: Paul Smith TKO9, Sullivan Barrera UD12, Alexander Brand UD12, Sergey Kovalev UD12.  I think Ward beats Golovkin and Golovkin beats Alvarez.  However this list is not a who beats who list.  SOG has by far the weakest resume of the unbeaten boxers.  His win over Barrera is looking a little bit better.  There is no excuse for Brand.  Who wis billed as the only guy they could get for their price.  I think that says a lot.  I think if you filled a room with 100 people who understand boxing 50 of them would have said Ward beat Kovalev, and 50 would say Kovalev beat Ward.  Any Career defining fights? Yes questionable win over Sergey Kovalev

8. Leo Santa Cruz:  Abner Mares MD12, Kiko Martinez TKO5/, Carl Frampton LMD12, Carl Frampton MD12.  Not who you were expecting?  Other than his upset first round loss to Jhonny Gonzalez (and his loss to Santa Cruz). Mares has looked pretty good throughout his career.  Martinez is a used to be.  Frampton had put together a good run including a win over Santa Cruz before Santa Cruz beat Frampton.  Any Career defining fights?  Split 2 close fights with Carl Frampton.

9.  Carl Frampton:  Alejandro Gonzalez Jr UD12, Scott Quigg SD12, Leo Santa Cruz MD12, Leo Santa Cruz LMD12.   Who knows how good Gonzalez could have been.  He had a good short run with wins over Quigg and Santa Cruz, before losing to Santa Cruz.  Any Career defining fights? Yes Split 2 close fights with Leo Santa Cruz.  An argument can be made for his close win over Scott Quigg.

10. Roman Gonzalez:  Brian Viloria TKO9, McWilliams Arroyo UD12, Carlos Cuadras UD12, Wisaksil Wangek LMD12.  The 10 spot was the hardest spot to fill.  I considered Sergey Kovalev and Anthony Joshua.  Gonzalez has put together a good run over the past 2 years.  Even if disputed his loss to Wangek hurts.  I think his resume over the past 2 years is stronger than Kovalev’s and Joshua’s.  Any Career defining fights?  Yes close even questionable win over Carlos Cuadras.


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